Glen Helen II: "Gymkhana This!" Oct 9-10th 2010

[Rally OBXT]

Glen Helen II: "Gymkhana This!" Oct 9-10th. 2010

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Who wants to get down and dirty? So Cal Rally X is back at Glen Helen!! :headbang:

So you think you got what it takes to be the next Ken Block? Well, there's only one way to find out. Come out to Glen Helen to get your dirty drifting fix and test your skills against So Cal's hottest Rally X drivers!

Just like the 1st Glen Helen race this year, this is a two day event. Saturday is going to be a practice day (no event timing provided) and Sunday is race day. Also as before, GH is featuring 6 laps on race day instead of the traditional 4. This means more seat time for you! Entries capped at 45 to ensure everyone gets the 6 laps.


Race Entry Fee for Sunday:

$80 Day of / walk up

(If you still want to pre pay you can, just PM me and we will work it out)


Practice Day / Saturday:

$10 / lap or $40 for 5 laps*

*One free lap for CRS or SCCA members who pre reg + pre pay for race day. Anyone can participate in the practice day. You do not need to be entered in the race.

Please Note: This is an SCCA sanctioned and insured event. As such, you must be an SCCA member to participate. If you are not a member, weekend memberships are available on site for $5.

For walk up reg and practice day, cash is king. No checks or other payment accepted.


Prizes

Class winners will get $50 off a set of tires installed at Americas Tire (www.AmericasTire.com (http://www.AmericasTire.com)) or $100 credit toward any wheel and tire set. Prizes are not valid for online orders, it needs to be redeemed in store. Big thanks to Aaron / 409industries & America's Tire for the donation! :thumbsup:


Classing

See Post #5 in this thread

Map of Sunday's Course

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Event Staff

Event Organizer: Dave Haws
Roaming Helper: Louie Minette
Safety + Tech Steward: The Humungous!!....AKA Mike Malsed :p
Course Maintenance: Dean Dominguez
Volunteer and Grid Steward: Chris Walker
Timing + Scoring: Jayson Woodruff


OVERNIGHT CAMPING WILL BE AVAILABLE

Since this is a two day event, camping will be available for people who want to stay on-site. The best part of the deal that the camping is FREE!! Yup, that right…..nada, zip, zero, zilch. Camping will be in the pits, so please don’t spread out too much. (Map of location coming soon).

Camping Rules:

1.) Don’t Litter!! Pack out what you pack in.
2.) Hibachi grills / small bbq’s are OK
3.) Fires are OK, but be SAFE and reasonable.
4.) Be kind to your neighbors. You know….don’t play loud music until 3am or piss on their tent after you had too many beers! :shock:


SCHEDULE:

Saturday

Gates Open @ 8am

Open practice from 9am - 4pm*

* No event timing. If you want to be timed, bring a stopwatch and a friend! :p

Sunday

7am - 8:30am: Registration and Tech for Street Stock and Mod classes
8:45am: Drivers Meeting for Street Stock and Street Mod classes
9am - 11am: Street Stock Two and Four (street mod works)
11am - 1:30pm: Street Mod Two and Four (street stock works)
1:30pm - 1:45pm: Registration and Tech for Rally Two and Four
1:45pm: Drivers meeting for Rally Class
2pm to 5pm: Rally Two and Four (work for each other)

Please note that this is a “run and work” event. You are required to work at least once. Work duties include: shagging downed cones on course, timing control, working the grid or other jobs. If you do not work, your times will NOT be counted. There will be a Volunteer Steward to organize the workers and record who did / did not work.

Work schedule:

Street Mod works for Street Stock and vice versa. Rally Four works for Rally Two and vice versa.


DIRECTIONS TO GLEN HELEN

Glen Helen Raceway (www.glenhelen.com (http://www.glenhelen.com/)) is a motocross track near where the 15 and 215 freeways meet in San Bernardino.

* I-215 - if you're coming from the South or East, take 215N; if from the West, take 15N to 215S; if from the N, take 215S
* exit Palm Ave - go WEST
* cross RR tracks - continue straight (road jogs about 10 feet)
* turn RIGHT on Verdemont Ranch Rd
* about 500 yards, enter chain-link gate on RIGHT (look for all the Subies LOL) - follow dirt road
* SPEED LIMIT IN PITS - 10MPH - there will be people walking around and dust to minimize


Pre-Paid List:

1. Eli Gilbert
2. Phil Stewart-Jones
3. Chris Drong
4. Robert Shoemaker
5. Bill Martin
6. Dave Peters
7. John Chabot
8. Pete Landry
9. Bret Norgaard
10. Robert Medlen
11. Kassie Sasaki
12. Tony Sun
13. Jeff Pera
14. Alexander Linde
15. Marvin Ronquillo
16. Eric Martin
17. Frankie Ho
18. Makoto Fukuwa
19. Art Singtoroj
20. Jon Rea
21. Aaron Ekinaka
22. Brian Dreger
23. Larry Gross
24. Larry Gross (2nd entry)
25. Lance Gross
26. Lorne Curtis
27. Isamu Kakitani
28. Trent Koury
29. John Stewart
30. Tsukasa Gushi
31. David Jones
32. David Jones (2nd entry)
33. Thomas Bloess
34. Kirk Tetzlaff
35. Omar Cardenas
36. Andrew Holman

[Tommy Gun Rally]

Put me on the prepaid list since I paid for an entry but didn't race last time please.

I'm down for camping - who else?

Also, who's car can I race? Dave? :)

[Cambo]

my car wont be ready but ill probly make it out to hang out. im gonna try to get my girl and her friend (DUBLOVE) to do this event :headbang:

[Newk_Rally]

dave i'm down let me know if you need help again!!

[Rally OBXT]

Update!!

Classing
Street Stock 2wd (SS2) & Street Stock 4wd (SS4):

The name Street Stock comes from Street tires with Stock preparation level. As such these classes are for cars that have limited performance modifications, and are using street tires. Street tires include those tires sold as “Passenger Tires”. Street tires do not include ice/winter specific tires (currently designated by the mountain/snowflake emblem or the words ice/snow in the tire name), light truck tires (designated by “LT” on the sidewall), or tires designated for rally or competition use. The original tread may not be modified (siped or grooved). SS2 will be for two-wheel drive cars and SS4 will be for four-wheel drive cars. Street Stock Class cars must be stock (or equivalent) with the following exceptions:

The exhaust system does not need to be stock behind the catalytic converter.
Replacement air filter elements are allowed.
Computer chip upgrades are allowed.


Street Modified 2wd (SM2) & Street Modified 4wd (SM4):

The name Street Modified comes from Street tires (which in this case include ice/winter tires) with a Modified preparation level. As such, these classes are for cars that have been modified beyond the limits detailed above and are using street tires or ice/winter specific tires (currently designated by the mountain/snowflake emblem or the words ice/snow in the tire name). Light truck tires (designated by “LT” on the sidewall) are not allowed, nor are tires designated for rally or competition use. The original tread may not be modified (siped or grooved). SM2 will be for two-wheel drive cars and SM4 will be for four-wheel drive cars.

Rally 2wd & Rally 4wd:

Cars running tires that do not qualify for the "Street" classes will be placed in either the Rally 2wd or Rally 4wd class.

[snaggleto0th]

Hmm Ill see how time and money come into play but I wanna go to one of these events so bad. No racing for me but down to be pit crew mechanic when needed if Im able to go.

[Tommy Gun Rally]

It's not a nascar race, we dont need mechanics - just scrape the money together and run it! Rent a car!

[geekmonster]

x's 2, this is a pretty low key and relaxed event, so its not hardcore. if you got $60 and the time to come down, you'll have a great time out here.


dave, count me in and if you need help, i'm down. i have some vacation days that i have to use before november, so i'll be taking care of that asap. i really need some dirt action. give me a call if you still need people to work.

[snaggleto0th]

It's not a nascar race, we dont need mechanics - just scrape the money together and run it! Rent a car!

I know its no NASCAR race. I wont run my car its a long walk home if something breaks and to expensive to fix for a drive home. Maybe when the car is paid off Ill finally do a RallyX. But id be down to check out a rallyx for the first time and help what I can. Just gotta see how my money flow is at the time for gas/food/beer and more beer. I would see my self camping out.

[Johnny5]

The cops can't even keep me from comming to your events Dave. I'll try not to attract so many this time. :cuckoo:

[SoCalBoomer]

I'll do safety/tech for you if you'd like, Dave.

Might even have Roxanne ready to run for it. . . :D

[Rally OBXT]

Just in case anyone here doesn't know what GH is all about, here is a little video to give you a taste.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Fufc4e1yLQ

[lminette]

Whaa?!!!:shock:

[Rally OBXT]

I'll do safety/tech for you if you'd like, Dave.

Might even have Roxanne ready to run for it. . . :D


That would be GREAT!! I will put you down.

[409industries]

Yes! reg'd and will mail a check. So long as the car makes it back from Prescott in decent shape we will be there racing. If not, ill come hangout and drink everyone's beer.

[Rally OBXT]

If not, ill come hangout and drink everyone's beer.

I like your style! :D

[bzzbee2]

Wish I could be there. :cry:

[Rally OBXT]

Why? You running another marathon or something? ;)

[bzzbee2]

Nope, gonna be on vacation on the east coast.

[rollo]

Reg'd. Can't wait!

[409industries]

Let the sh*t talking begin!

[isamu]

I'm in SM4 class. :)

[rollo]

LOL

Now we're talking! It's like the old days again 8)

[0.o slow 1.6]

Yes!!!!!!!!! Been waiting for this event. Will be signing up in Sept tho :(. Hopefully it doesn't get full by then.

[Rally OBXT]

Update!!

Pre reg / pre pay deadline is Sept 18th!! @ 11:00 PM. Price is $80 after that point.

[T-Heineken]

DUDE. HELLA Gymkhana THIS!

If my car is back together for this, I'll try and make it down. I still haven't made it to a Glen Helen :(

[Tommy Gun Rally]

Tucker do you still use those wheels/tires I sold you?

[bue car]

reg'd and pm'd to pay

[Pretendingtowork]

Reg'd will pay as soon as I get paid...

[bue car]

paid... so now i can trash talk biches

[T-Heineken]

Tucker do you still use those wheels/tires I sold you?

Yessir I do.

Been working quite well.

[409industries]

I'm in SM4 class. :)

Totally old school!

[socalximpreza]

i got the green light from the wifey, count me in.

ss2 here i come!

[bue car]

hey buddy, added you on rs 25!

rally 4 here i come!

[Ocard]

Oh crap!! I completely forgot there was another GH!! I'll sign up as soon as I pay for the invitational Dave. So sometime next week :)

[Rallypro7]

Registered!! Cant wait to battle it out :twisted:

[geekmonster]

http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/zip/1910533921.html

[409industries]

Registered!! Cant wait to battle it out :twisted:

Yeah, just what we need is Trent in a fully caged car.

[Rally OBXT]

I love it! Thick competition in R4, the way it should be! :twisted:

[Tommy Gun Rally]

dave am I confirmed for codriving with you? :)

[bue car]

my friend may come too.. since he will use my car, i wont be last in R4!!!!

lol

[Cambo]

do you guys need help with anything? im down to help out with this event since i wont be competing :-( TheDub isnt quite done yet... not even close :shootsself:

[geekmonster]

do you guys need help with anything? im down to help out with this event since i wont be competing :-( TheDub isnt quite done yet... not even close :shootsself:
if you can, rent a car. people have done it in the past and its a good way to pop your rallyx cherry.

[Cambo]

well, my ol'ladys friend (DUBLOVE) is coming and she said i can take her car (04 WRX) out for a couple laps for practice. id still like to help out at the event, since i dont know much about how everything works. i fugured it would be a good opportunity for me to learn a few things about RallyCross events.

[MarkA]

This is an SCCA sanctioned and insured event.

As such, has anyone tried to get this on the SCCA "National Challenge" calendar? With San Diego bailing earlier this year, there would not have been one in SoCal and it would mean $$$ in contingencies. All you'd have to do is create a separate results sheet after the fact for those classes like what Burke did at Santa Rosa.

[bue car]

grr i need to just buy a scca membership so i can compete for TD contingency $$

[MarkA]

The TD one (you win 2/3rd's of a wheel :roll:) wouldn't be worth it but for Subaru, VW, and now, Yokohama it would be.

Anyway, just a suggestion.

[bue car]

maybe so, but I have 4 and need spares so 2/3rds is a start!

[409industries]

As such, has anyone tried to get this on the SCCA "National Challenge" calendar? With San Diego bailing earlier this year, there would not have been one in SoCal and it would mean $$$ in contingencies. All you'd have to do is create a separate results sheet after the fact for those classes like what Burke did at Santa Rosa.

Is this true? Paging B. Norgard...

bue car, i think your weekend SCCA membership allows you to be eligible for any contingency money so long as you are running the correct decals, etc.

[Cambo]

i dont know much about contingencies but i know when i was racing my GSXR 600, Suzuki wouldnt pay out if you were riding a bike that was over 2 years old... so, if you are riding an 07, you wont get payed

[bue car]

psh im riding a 00..

ill see whats up tonight.

[MarkA]

First, you guys should probably let Dave or whoever see if they can get it done and then second, you could actually read the contingency forms and not have to speculate on who might get what:
http://www.scca.com/contingencies.aspx?hub=2&cid=12
[/URL] [URL="http://www.scca.com/contingencies.aspx?hub=2&cid=15"];-)
(http://www.scca.com/contingencies.aspx?hub=2&cid=15)

[A1337STI]

Subaru contingency is good for any ALL WHEEL DRIVE subaru. so show up in a 1984 GL with 4X4 mode and you're in

show up in a certain 93 FWD impreza and they could care less.... :P that's why i went to prarie city in my sti last time, Since Prarie city isn't cool enough for CRS points this year *poke poke* :twisted:

[WAM]

Registered and ready to pre-pay...where's that button?

[rollo]

Since Prarie city isn't cool enough for CRS points this year *poke poke* :twisted:

Nothing to do with being cool enough. CRS points need CRS classes to be scored, and if nobody is willing to do that then it's kinda tricky to make it happen.

[bue car]

First, you guys should probably let Dave or whoever see if they can get it done and then second, you could actually read the contingency forms and not have to speculate on who might get what:
http://www.scca.com/contingencies.aspx?hub=2&cid=12
;-)
(http://www.scca.com/contingencies.aspx?hub=2&cid=15)

which is what I meant by look it up tonight ..hence at work and un able to open scca.com ;)

[Rally OBXT]

As such, has anyone tried to get this on the SCCA "National Challenge" calendar? With San Diego bailing earlier this year, there would not have been one in SoCal and it would mean $$$ in contingencies. All you'd have to do is create a separate results sheet after the fact for those classes like what Burke did at Santa Rosa.

Yes, this is an SCCA event.

No, this is not a "National Challenge" event.

No, there is no contingency money at this event.

You want money? Then in the famous word of Al Davis (Owner of the Raiders)

"Just win baby!" :mrgreen:

[Rally OBXT]

grr i need to just buy a scca membership so i can compete for TD contingency $$

Don't worry, you were never in the running anyway!! :FU: :lol2:

J/K

You know I :love: you right?

[Rally OBXT]

bue car, i think your weekend SCCA membership allows you to be eligible for any contingency money so long as you are running the correct decals, etc.

Not true, you need to be a full time member of the SCCA to win contingency money. This rule was changed in 2009 I think.

[Rally OBXT]

Registered and ready to pre-pay...where's that button?


Did motorsportreg.com not show a page with directions on how to pay?? Sometimes that site pisses me off, sometimes I love it! Oh well, I guess you have to take the good with the bad.

Bill, you have a PM inbound.

[WAM]

Did motorsportreg.com not show a page with directions on how to pay?? Sometimes that site pisses me off, sometimes I love it! Oh well, I guess you have to take the good with the bad.

Bill, you have a PM inbound.

Well, let's just say it's not where I was looking. I thought I might have seen it earlier, but may have been thinking of Jon's event or something.

Anyway, done deal.

[SoCalBoomer]

I'll reg in a bit - I'm closer and closer to actually competing! :D I'll definitely be there for Tech/Safety . . . but hopefully I'll put down some smack in 2WD something. . .

[socalximpreza]

. . . but hopefully I'll put down some smack in 2WD something. . .


you and me both brother :thumbsup:

[pukka]

Did motorsportreg.com not show a page with directions on how to pay?? Sometimes that site pisses me off, sometimes I love it! Oh well, I guess you have to take the good with the bad.

The event is configured to not accept payment right now, so no payment options/directions will appear. We can help you change it - just drop us a line!

- Brian @ MSR

[Rally OBXT]

The event is configured to not accept payment right now, so no payment options/directions will appear. We can help you change it - just drop us a line!

- Brian @ MSR

Brian-

PM inbound

[rollo]

Great service there btw. Kudos to MSR!

fwiw Dave I'm pretty sure it said somewhere what I was supposed to do.

[409industries]

Thanks for getting all the contingency questions cleared up Dave! I'm pushing hard to get people to come out to this one. My neighbor with the Forester is probably going to come :)

[bue car]

got my gt brakes in the rear, new flaps, and ss lines ftw~!

i am almost ready..

[geekmonster]

I'll reg in a bit - I'm closer and closer to actually competing! :D I'll definitely be there for Tech/Safety . . . but hopefully I'll put down some smack in 2WD something. . .

if you're gonna be in ss2, that makes me happy. so far i'm the only one reg'd for ss2 and i actually want some competition.

[SoCalBoomer]

if you're gonna be in ss2, that makes me happy. so far i'm the only one reg'd for ss2 and i actually want some competition.

won't be SS, might be SM, prolly won't be R as I am short a couple of rally tires. . .

[0.o slow 1.6]

if you're gonna be in ss2, that makes me happy. so far i'm the only one reg'd for ss2 and i actually want some competition.

Ill be in ss2 but won't be giving you any good competition though lol

[SilverSleeper04]

poop, i may be going to a friggin wedding that weekend. :shootsself: if not, then i am there for sho

[geekmonster]

Ill be in ss2 but won't be giving you any good competition though lol

you never know, sometimes we all have days where things click and you do well. good to know that i won't be the only ss2 there.

[SoCalBoomer]

Yeah, Roxanne is just a little too modded to qualify for SS . . . and I don't have the parts to bring her back. . . oh well. :D

[mousemanthormx]

I think I am going to be able to make this one! Its going to be my first rallycross event so it should be interesting to see how i do! Can't wait!

[409industries]

I think I am going to be able to make this one! Its going to be my first rallycross event so it should be interesting to see how i do! Can't wait!

Damn Jeff you haven't done one yet? I've seen your driving style... you'll have a blast for sure, but might have to tone it down a bit to get some good times. :eyebrows:

Then again its been a while since we've had someone go 100% Hollywood :lol2:

[bue car]

last hollywood i saw was 240sxcone.com or something.. that guy was a hoot and had a blast.. his roster tail took out cones it was that awesome :FU:

[mousemanthormx]

No I had to spectate the last two because my car was either out of service or not tuned! But I am gonna be ready for this one just got my new suspension now all i need is my jackson rally lift and i will be set! Haha ya thats what i figured! Hopefully my cal city practice will help me out! :D

[Cambo]

Scratch what i said about helping at this event... my sister is getting married on the 10th and i guess it would be important for me to attend the wedding :roll: ill still be there on the 9th for a couple laps.

[subeerex]

BUMPhttp://i405.photobucket.com/albums/pp139/subeerex/Cartoon%20Motion%20Clips/Bugs-gremlin-1.gif

.........for a great event!!:thumbsup:

[geekmonster]

last hollywood i saw was 240sxcone.com or something.. that guy was a hoot and had a blast.. his roster tail took out cones it was that awesome :FU:

didn't that guy hit like 13 cones in one run? was fun watching him and he had a blast.

[dirtslayer]

Im in for the practice

[Johnny5]

Yea on his last few runs someone taped a cone to the hood. Long live the unicone.

[geekmonster]

Yea on his last few runs someone taped a cone to the hood. Long live the unicone.

that would be dave.:rofl::rofl:

uno mas month!

[LornStar]

Back for another. Just pre-reg'd(?) Would Dave mind if I dropped off the check at his place? I live on 4th & park.

[geekmonster]

Back for another. Just pre-reg'd(?) Would Dave mind if I dropped off the check at his place? I live on 4th & park.

bring some bourbon and i think you will be ok.:mrgreen:

[Rally OBXT]

Only 10 more days to pre-pay and get the $60 price!! It goes up to $80 after Sept. 18th regardless of pre-reg status.

We have only 8 people so far who have pre paid. For those of you who have reg'ed but not paid....:nono Get your money in before the 18th and save! :mrgreen:

[bue car]

i will only be out to play sunday if ol' bessie makes it through norcal. see you guys there!

[dirtslayer]

whos camping there? I am and definitely will be handing some sierra nevadas if anyone wants to join

[Rally OBXT]

I am! :waving:

I need to make sure all you knuckle heads don't get too far out of control....:nono

Speaking of out of control, I need to assign someone to "Bourbon" patrol. The job is to make sure I don't drink to much and go from this --->:cheers: to this ---> :D to this ---> :headbang: to this ---> :twisted: to this ---> :punch: to this ---> :drooling:

Because on the next day I gotta do this ---> :rally-driver:

[geekmonster]

i'll be camping out there, always nice to not have to wake up at super early and drive out to events.

[Johnny5]

It might not be bourbon, but I'll probably bring some more Johnny Walker.. only good things can come from that.

[geekmonster]

only if you don't get picked up by the cops this time.......lol

[subyspawn]

I am! :waving:

I need to make sure all you knuckle heads don't get too far out of control....:nono

Speaking of out of control, I need to assign someone to "Bourbon" patrol. The job is to make sure I don't drink to much and go from this --->:cheers: to this ---> :D to this ---> :headbang: to this ---> :twisted: to this ---> :punch: to this ---> :drooling:

Because on the next day I gotta do this ---> :rally-driver:

but this is acceptable behavior??

http://www.dirtyimpreza.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1780&stc=1&d=1283318825
:eyebrows:

[Tommy Gun Rally]

I'm camping too. Anyone coming up from SD? I need a way to get my dirt bike up there to terrorize you fools.

[geekmonster]

I'm camping too. Anyone coming up from SD? I need a way to get my dirt bike up there to terrorize you fools.

just ride it up from san diego and have mindy drive the car......that or zip tie it to your roof.:mrgreen:

[SoCalBoomer]

See, we want Dave to move to stage THREE, and not beyond. . . Stage 6 is NOT PRETTY. . . or so I hear. . . something about hairballs, missing pillows, deflated air-mattresses. . . who knows?

[Tommy Gun Rally]

"Those aren't pillows!"

[bue car]

oh boy.. hope I don't miss too much the night before!

[worldrallyblue]

but this is acceptable behavior??

http://www.dirtyimpreza.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1780&stc=1&d=1283318825
:eyebrows:

:shock:

[409industries]

The job is to make sure I don't drink to much and go from this --->:cheers: to this ---> :D to this ---> :headbang: to this ---> :twisted: to this ---> :punch: to this ---> :drooling:

Because on the next day I gotta do this ---> :rally-driver:

This is by far, hands down, the best use of similes I have seen in a loooong time.

[bue car]

i agree.. aaron, i just realized i have never been in your car..we shall fix that one day

[dirtslayer]

I am! :waving:

I need to make sure all you knuckle heads don't get too far out of control....:nono

Speaking of out of control, I need to assign someone to "Bourbon" patrol. The job is to make sure I don't drink to much and go from this --->:cheers: to this ---> :D to this ---> :headbang: to this ---> :twisted: to this ---> :punch: to this ---> :drooling:

Because on the next day I gotta do this ---> :rally-driver:


Hilarious!!!!

[409industries]

i agree.. aaron, i just realized i have never been in your car..we shall fix that one day

We could do a practice lap for sure.

[bue car]

I winn not be there sat for lack of money.

with norcal this weekend, vegas in 2 weeks, and this, im broke lol.

:-x

[409industries]

yes sir... i know the meaning of broke. literally going for broke getting to Prescott.

[0.o slow 1.6]

Woot! Just registered.

[mousemanthormx]

registered and payed! Can't wait until october!

[geekmonster]

three more weeks to AWESOME!

[Cambo]

3 more weeks to disside if im gonna smash around with the civic, get a rental or just go out to hang out (Saturday). i know what your all gonna say "Get a Rental" lol but im not gonna be able to race cause i have a wedding to attend on sunday so i might just take my civic around for a couple laps if i disside to play.

my Girls friend (DUBLOVE) is planning on taking her 04 WRX out so i might just take that out for 1 lap to show her how its done :muhaha: (w/out rolling it ;))

[409industries]

Yeah for sure have her come out at least to check it. She will want to drive it for sure.

[MarkA]

Wow, only 6 entries away from your 45 limit three weeks out :thumbsup:

[bue car]

Ahoy Mark! You gunna make this one with the focus?

You were sure tearing up the path at PC this past weekend.. :rally-driver:

[bue car]

dave... water hazard. do ett. just a mini one, but I know it will be the talk of the day ;)

[lorenkb]

How the hell did I miss the registration deadline? Dave, put me on the list!

[isamu]

dave... water hazard. do ett. just a mini one, but I know it will be the talk of the day ;)

Don't do it. :nono I hate water hazard because I want to keep my car clean...8)

Resent track event at Streets of willow was done on last Friday. I'm going to change my car setup for the rallyX from this weekend.

Isamu

[GIS_WRX]

If the registration limit is hit would people really be turned away if they show up day of? I'm not gonna know if my car is ready till like the week before and don't want to fill a spot someone might use if my car isnt done.

[WAM]

Wow, only 6 entries away from your 45 limit three weeks out :thumbsup:

But we know from last year's Cal City I that entering isn't the same as showing up. I only see 10 on the paid list. Let's hope that list needs updating.

[bue car]

it does. your boy here is paid as always :)

[MarkA]

Ahoy Mark! You gunna make this one with the focus?

You were sure tearing up the path at PC this past weekend.. :rally-driver:

Thanks! This one's a bit out of range for me though so I won't be down there.

But we know from last year's Cal City I that entering isn't the same as showing up. I only see 10 on the paid list. Let's hope that list needs updating.

True dat

[SoCalBoomer]

Well, Roxanne won't be up for the race - too much other stuff going on for me to tear into her and fix the things that need fixing - so unless someone wants to share a vehicool with me, I'll just be tech/safety dood.

:D

[MarkA]

E-team it so your weekend's fun won't be Hertz-ing ;-)

[geekmonster]

E-team it so your weekend's fun won't be Hertz-ing ;-)
:rofl::rofl:

[randyc]

Hi, any information on how things work for a car driven by two people? I am thinking of coming up with a co-driver on Saturday in our WRX. Is it possible to share an entry and/or is it possible to have two entries?

Any information on the normal format for a practice day? Thanks!

[409industries]

Hi, any information on how things work for a car driven by two people? I am thinking of coming up with a co-driver on Saturday in our WRX. Is it possible to share an entry and/or is it possible to have two entries?

Any information on the normal format for a practice day? Thanks!

You guys will have to both enter. Yes two drivers can share the same car. Just mention this to anyone who is running the grid during your class so that the can stage you in a way that will allow you guys enough time to switch out during your class.

Practice day is pretty informal... just pay for how many runs you want to do. :)

[randyc]

Thanks!

[Rally OBXT]

1st post updated to reflect all the people who pre-reg'ed / pre-paid.

Also, the prizes have been updated:

1st place in each class will get $50 off a set of tires installed at Americas Tire (www.AmericasTire.com (http://www.americastire.com/)) or $100 credit toward any wheel and tire set. Prizes are not valid for online orders, it needs to be redeemed in a store. Big thanks to Aaron / 409industries & America's Tire for the donation! :thumbsup:

[bue car]

nice!

Just got my custom knob in.. cannot wait to try it out at GH.

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r255/thyfacelessgod/Impreza%2025%20Rs/Picture082-1.jpg

[punkrockerjohn]

Dave you have an email and a PM...

[Rally OBXT]

^^ Got it, Sorry about that.

[Rally OBXT]

nice!

Just got my custom knob in.. cannot wait to try it out at GH.

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r255/thyfacelessgod/Impreza%2025%20Rs/Picture082-1.jpg

Ummmm...:shocked:

[punkrockerjohn]

LOL !

That looks like a real lady killer.

[isamu]

Anyone know how to pay the entry fee? Check, Paypal, or something else? ;)

[Cambo]

LOL !

That looks like a real lady killer.
:rofl: i was gonna say the same thing... way ta intimidate the ladies Chris :p

wait, what ladies :o lol j/k ;)

[murtada87]

Man I'm excited for this event! I haven't been on dirty in such a long time since i had to sell my subie last year :(! But my needs for dirt were too much so I bought a datsun 510 rwd to get back into the sport! Something cheap and could still be fun in the dirt. Hopefully the car will be ready by then I'm dropping in the engine this weekend!

[punkrockerjohn]

Anyone know how to pay the entry fee? Check, Paypal, or something else? ;)


paypal. the email is in the first couple post I think.

[Rally OBXT]

Anyone know how to pay the entry fee? Check, Paypal, or something else? ;)

Isamu, I just sent you an e-mail w/ instructions how to pay.

[Gravel Crew Rally Team]

Dave are you or anyone else going to be at the venue Friday evening? I am asking cause I will be going to Subifest on Sat but want to drop off my car and trailer till Sunday. It would be easier to just drop it off Friday and get a hotel near Subiefest.

[Rally OBXT]

Yes, I will be at the venue around noon setting up on Friday. You can drop the car off no problem.

Also, just to let everyone know, you can camp Friday night too if you wish. I will be there Friday night and Sat night. The "real" party will probably be Friday night as Saturday is pretty chill / not too much to do.

[SoCalBoomer]

When do you want me out there Sat morning, Dave?

[dirtslayer]

Yes, I will be at the venue around noon setting up on Friday. You can drop the car off no problem.

Also, just to let everyone know, you can camp Friday night too if you wish. I will be there Friday night and Sat night. The "real" party will probably be Friday night as Saturday is pretty chill / not too much to do.

im pondering friday night. the real party huh?? haha
:cheers:

[Tommy Gun Rally]

If anyone is willing to let me co-drive their car with them on Sunday, let me know. I promise to drive nice!

Eli

[GIS_WRX]

If anyone is willing to let me co-drive their car with them on Sunday, let me know. I promise to drive nice!

Eli

If my car is ready and I make it out there you are more than welcome to use mine if you are ok with 100hp 2wd LOL

[Rally OBXT]

When do you want me out there Sat morning, Dave?

If you could be there by 8:30 am that would be great.

[SoCalBoomer]

will be there! :D

[Gravel Crew Rally Team]

Yes, I will be at the venue around noon setting up on Friday. You can drop the car off no problem.

Also, just to let everyone know, you can camp Friday night too if you wish. I will be there Friday night and Sat night. The "real" party will probably be Friday night as Saturday is pretty chill / not too much to do.
Thanks Dave. I should be there sometime in the afternoon. Would you mind PMing me your number. I can send you a text when I am on my way, to make sure that you are there.

[Rally OBXT]

^^PM inbound

[geekmonster]

i know this isn't really a GH question, but has anyone seen where the standings for crs points are for this season? just wanted to see if i have a chance to take 1st this year or if i'm too far behind dave clark or eric martin.

[409industries]

Time to get amped! Here's the onboard from last year:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HkxYL9eQNs

[WAM]

i know this isn't really a GH question, but has anyone seen where the standings for crs points are for this season? just wanted to see if i have a chance to take 1st this year or if i'm too far behind dave clark or eric martin.

The CRS homepage only shows two events completed and one to go. Schedule and results are below, but I didn't find any tallied points

http://www.californiarallyseries.com/Current/Schedule/index.aspx

Maybe rollo knows more. I think he's CRS rep.

[eric_m48]

i know this isn't really a GH question, but has anyone seen where the standings for crs points are for this season? just wanted to see if i have a chance to take 1st this year or if i'm too far behind dave clark or eric martin.


If I understand the points system right, you're definitely still in it. In fact, if you win, and Dave shows up to get 2nd, there'll be a 3-way tie for the season win.

[geekmonster]

If I understand the points system right, you're definitely still in it. In fact, if you win, and Dave shows up to get 2nd, there'll be a 3-way tie for the season win.

are you going eric? when i saw looked at the results that bill posted, it looks like you're my biggest worry since dave wasn't there for ridgecrest. if you show up i'm really gonna have to drive the hell out of the slowica to keep hope for a 1st finish and a tie for the season. i like this though, really makes you wanna go out there and try really really hard and makes things interesting.

[rollo]

So I see from the reg list that what I think is Ken Gushi's dad is in R4 now...

8)

[geekmonster]

So I see from the reg list that what I think is Ken Gushi's dad is in R4 now...

8)

say what???? that could be awesome if it is.

[Rally OBXT]

It looks like it is...this should be fun! :D

[SoCalBoomer]

that should be fun!

He and Ken came to several GravelCrew events and I think only finished a couple. . . blew up their tranny or something at the very first Glen Helen (GC ran it, fun but HOOOOOOOOOT) - something about a massive motor and a low-end stock tranny or something?

[Tommy Gun Rally]

I remember being less than impressed by their performance. Everyone was like '...uh...'

[punkrockerjohn]

...

[Thresham]

I think I'll come out and watch Saturday morning, and maaybe do a couple practice runs and test out the new Conti DWS's I just threw on for winter.

Won't do anything crazy though, no more blowing up Subarus for a while lol....

[geekmonster]

one week to awesomeness!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Burtoe]

man i cant wait!

[subyspawn]

since we didn't wad up the car in prescott, we will be there Sunday

on another note, I will have all my old rally tires with me for sale if interested bring some extra cash for cheap rally tires

[bue car]

what size? I need some.... and im paid friday yea boy!

pm sent.

[geekmonster]

trying to decide if i want to do brats or burgers on saturday......

[SoCalBoomer]

brats are chewy and they struggle. . . . OOOOhhhh, you mean bratwursts. . . never mind. . .

[409industries]

So I see from the reg list that what I think is Ken Gushi's dad is in R4 now...
8)

Indeed. Talked to Yuji about this and he mentioned that it was true.

since we didn't wad up the car in prescott, we will be there Sunday

on another note, I will have all my old rally tires with me for sale if interested bring some extra cash for cheap rally tires

Same thing here. Quite a relief that the car isn't dead... so i will be there at least on Sunday. Camping sounds fun for Saturday but i'll know if i'm doing that last minute.

The post Prescott yard sale continues - I have a RallyArmor GC skidplate that I no longer can use. If anyone wants to pick it up off me, ill bring it. PM me for details. ;-)

[Tommy Gun Rally]

I can't make this. Too many wedding planning things plus I dont have a car to run. See y'all at the next one.

[geekmonster]

The post Prescott yard sale continues - I have a RallyArmor GC skidplate that I no longer can use. If anyone wants to pick it up off me, ill bring it. PM me for details. ;-)

how much? i may be interested in making it work for the slowica. the mercedes hood diy skidplate is not looking so good.

[Cambo]

I can't make this. Too many wedding planning things plus I dont have a car to run. See y'all at the next one.
ugh... me too. my little sister is getting married :roll: and my chicks friend backed out due to work. she said i can take her car with my wheels and tires but im not sure i wanna do that (i might roll it) ;)

if i make it, cool... if not, ill see y'all at the next one with my own car i hope :muhaha:

[geekmonster]

weather forecast is looking good for this weekend.

friday - Sunshine. Highs in the upper 70s and lows in the mid 50s.
saturday - Sunny. Highs in the low 80s and lows in the upper 50s.
sunday - Abundant sunshine. Highs in the mid 80s and lows in the upper 50s.

looks like i will definitely need to bring some sunscreen for sunday.

[409industries]

how much? i may be interested in making it work for the slowica. the mercedes hood diy skidplate is not looking so good.

The plate has been claimed...

[Rally OBXT]

Prize update:

Jackson Rally is throwing down a free T-Shirt to the "fast time of day" (single quickest run) for 2WD and 4WD! THANKS JR!! :guitarist:

[geekmonster]

The plate has been claimed...

CRAP!!!!!

[rollo]

My hubs and TB gasket look like they'll arrive today and I have an IAC valve ready to go.. fingers crossed that it'll hold a decent idle and lose the whine when I'm done with all that.

Gotta get me some racin

[rollo]

I can't make this. Too many wedding planning things plus I dont have a car to run. See y'all at the next one.

Yeah not having a car kinda makes the drive up a bit redundant I guess. You better work on getting one... :D

[Rally OBXT]

I can't make this. Too many wedding planning things plus I dont have a car to run. See y'all at the next one.

That's not true, you just don't WANT to run your new WRX! Don't worry, as soon as you get a few scratches on it you will be running with us again. :mrgreen:

[mcyyy123]

hopefully u guys have enough staff this time so i dont have to flag again lol!

[409industries]

hopefully u guys have enough staff this time so i dont have to flag again lol!

We can never have too many people helping out. If you're competing, plan on working during the day. Everyone has to pitch in for these things to run smoothly.

Great news rollo! Isamu can't be the only Evo out there. Looks like we'll have quite a few Mitsu's with Bret bringing his Galant too :)

[rollo]

Don't forget Bill.. he'll be there, kicking ass and taking names as usual no doubt :D

[ZED E85]

Looks like I won't make it afterall...The bike is in the shop waiting on backordered parts, I seem to have picked up a cold while I was in prescott, I blew too much money while I was out there and I don't have a car that will pass tech, let alone make it there :(

Have fun!

[Rally OBXT]

You can still come down and party, that is if you think you can keep up! ;-)

[Rally OBXT]

SUPPLEMENTAL REGULATIONS

Glen Helen II “Gymkhana This!”

Oct 9-10, 2010

Supplemental Regulations



In addition to the 2010 CRS Rally X rules, the following regulations and procedures apply to the Glen Helen II: “Gymkhana This!” race held on Oct 9-10, 2010. Any questions not directly answered by the regulations are defaulted to the Rally X rulebook and then the Event Chair or Chief Steward for interpretation.

Schedule: (All times listed are approximate)


Saturday Oct 9th, 2010
8:00 am - 4:00 pm Test and Tune / Practice laps**
** There will be no event timing provided

Sunday Oct 10th, 2009
7am - 8:30am: Registration and Tech for Street Stock and Mod classes. Course open for walking.
8:45am: Drivers Meeting for Street Stock and Street Mod classes. Meeting is MANDITORY for everyone
9am - 11am: Street Stock Two and Four race (street mod works)
11am - 1:30pm: Street Mod Two and Four race (street stock works)
1:30pm - 1:45pm: Registration and Tech for Rally Two and Four
1:45pm: Drivers meeting for Rally Class. Meeting is MANDITORY for everyone
2pm to 5pm: Rally Two and Four race (work for each other)


Entries:


All drivers shall be SCCA members. Non-members must purchase a temporary SCCA Membership at Registration Saturday morning. Available on site for $5. Current SCCA members MUST bring their SCCA Card to verify membership. CRS members must bring their card to verify membership as well.




An entry is not considered final until the completed entry form and the entry fee have been paid.


3. Entry Fee breakdown:

Test and Tune / Practice:
$10 / lap
$40 / five laps
*CRS and SCCA members get a free lap with pre-paid entry

Race day:
$80 for walk up reg

4. Payment options:

Day of Race: Cash


5. Cancellations received on/before Oct 2nd , 2010 will receive a full refund.
Cancellations made after Oct 2nd, 2010 will not receive a refund. NO EXCEPTIONS. Cancellations must be in writing. (Emails are acceptable to dhwaw@verizon.net)


Timing and Scoring:



Entrants are responsible for submitting all corrections, i.e. name, class, car number, to Timing and Scoring Steward.


2. All 6 runs will be scored. The winner is determined by the lowest cumulative time. If a competitor does not finish a run (DNF) they will receive a default time. This time will be determined by timing and scoring using the slowest competitor’s time (clean run…no cones, no mechanical failure) in class plus ten (10) seconds.



Drivers with mechanical difficulty will need to be ready to run by the time their run group is up. If they fail to start, they will get a DNF time.


Run Order

1. Cars will be given a random starting order. Cars will run in this order for the first three laps, then the order will be reversed. Example: If there are four cars in a class they will run 1,2,3,4 for three laps. Then for the next three laps cars will run in the order of 4,3,2,1.


Penalties


1. All knocked down cones are a 2 second penalty. A cone is considered “knocked
down” if it moves from it’s original location, even if it is still upright. If a cone is
moved from wheel spray, it’s considered a downed cone.

2. 10 seconds for starting prior to the starter’s signal for “Go”.

3. Missed gates or going on the wrong side of a cone is considered “Off Course”. Each
“Off Course” is a 10 second penalty.

4. All penalties are subject to the Event Steward’s review. Additional penalties may be added, assigned or removed at the Chief Steward’s discretion.

Tech Inspection



All competition vehicles must pass the pre-event safety/tech inspection. Vehicles are to be presented ready for competition with helmet meeting Snell 95 certification or better. The Region will have a limited supply of helmets for loan, located near Grid. A valid driver’s license will be held until the return of the helmet.




No vehicle will be allowed to participate without the safety/tech inspection sticker on the driver’s side windshield upper corner.




Each class will hold a mandatory class inspection prior to the start of the official competition where class competitors may inspect all the other vehicles in their class and question eligibility at that time. The Event Steward will resolve all matters of eligibility and/or preparation non-compliance. Protests against vehicles shall be lodged no later than the start of the first competitor, given to the Event Steward at this time.







Rules of the Paddock



Competition vehicles should be worked on in the paddock area although minor repairs and adjustments can be made in grid




Do not pour gas, oil or coolant on the ground anywhere on the facility.




Pets must be on leashes at all times and cleaned up after.


4. No practicing, testing or fast driving is allowed in the pits, paddock or adjacent roads,
including the transit between finish and staging. Competitors will receive one notice of violation and will be disqualified if a second violation is witnessed.

Safety

1. A speed limit of 10 mph will be enforced at the event site including the paddock area and grid.

2. Children and pets are allowed on the event site. During active competition children under 12 and pets are not allowed in the grid, staging or course area. Pets must be leashed at all times.

3. Refueling vehicles must be accomplished with an assistant holding a fire extinguisher outside the vehicle.

4. Photographers desiring to enter a course area must be approved by the Safety Steward and they must be accompanied by a spotter. This spotter may not be a course worker at that location. Minors may not be photographers or spotters on course.

5. All incidents involving injury and/or property damage occurring on the event site or felt associated with the event must be reported as soon as possible to the Safety Steward, if not immediately available report to the Event Steward or Event Chairman.

6. If someone is under a jacked vehicle, for any reason, there must be at least one jack stand in place in addition to the jack.

Driver’s Meeting

There will be a driver’s meeting Sunday morning for Street Stock and Street Mod classes. There will be second drivers meeting in the afternoon for the Rally classes. The drivers meetings are MANDITORY for all competitors. Changes to the Supplemental Regulations and other items of information will be discussed at the meeting.
IT IS THE COMPETITOR’S RESPONSIBILITY TO CHECK AT REGISTRATION AND THE POSTING AREA FOR CHANGES TO THE SUPPLEMENTAL REGULATIONS.


Entrants as Workers

All competitors are required to work the event. Workers shall report to the Volunteer Steward (Chris Walker). Failure to work will result in disqualification.

Awards

Class winners will receive a $50 gift certificate to America’s Tire. Individual fast time of day winners(2wd and 4wd) will receive a Jackson Rally T-shirt.


Other

1. Competitors should only enter the course under the following conditions:

1. their duty as a worker requires it;
2. during a course walk;
3. as a driver/passenger during a parade lap for their run group; and,
4. as a competitor driving a timed run.
Items 2 and 3 (above) are allowed only during designated periods.

2. All course changes after competition starts must be authorized by the acting Safety Steward at the time the issue is raised. This does not mean that all issues raised about the course require action on the course. IT IS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED THAT THE SAFETY STEWARD OVERSEE THE CHANGES.

3. An official can also be a competitor but must follow the rules in this section to avoid the perception of, or actual conflict of interest. The Safety Steward (and subsequent Safety Stewards if required) and Course Designer must not be the same person. This will avoid any conflicts of interest arising from an interaction between these two positions.

4. Officials who are competitors must not take any action or make any ruling that may have an impact on the outcome of the competition in their favor.

5. Officials who are also competitors must be aware that their duty as an official continues through the event regardless of role. They will still be able to compete, but if they notice safety issues those issues must be brought to the attention of the acting Safety Steward rather than taking action directly. The integrity of the sport rests in the hands of the officials and competitors acting in a responsible manner.

6. If a competitor, who is also an event official, has a concern about the event, conduct of another competitor or official or safety issue, he or she must bring the matter to the
attention of the proper official. After a description of the issue, the official must then step
away and let the other event officials resolve the matter.

[Rally OBXT]

I have also emailed the above to all competitors using the email provided on motorsportsreg.com

I will have a copy at the event as well.

[Ocard]

Thanks Dave!! I can't freaking wait!!

I finally got my car in good enough condition to go so I'm ready to ride :rally-driver:

I also wanted to trow in that I'm looking for a set of 15 inch used rally tires/wheels that will clear wrx breaks, maybe from one of the rally teams that will be out there. just throwing it out there if anyone has anything they are willing to sell.

[Rally OBXT]

I know JR is bringing some tires....

[Ocard]

Now I just have to convince them to sell me some of those sweet Team dynamics for real cheap tehehe ;)

[punkrockerjohn]

Wait a second, if my roost knocks down a cone it counts as a 2 second penalty ?
That's bogus. Gonna make the mud flaps hang reeeeaaallllyyy low for this one...

[subyspawn]

Now I just have to convince them to sell me some of those sweet Team dynamics for real cheap tehehe ;)

I do have some wheels you could buy they are all the wrong bolt pattern! ;-)

I will have some tires to sell tho :thumbsup:

[MarkA]

Wait a second, if my roost knocks down a cone it counts as a 2 second penalty ?
That's bogus.

It's the Bill Holmes/"too big of a truck for RallyX" rule. You're otherwise asking course workers to make a judgment call on whether it was spray or rear bumper and an epic Bill vs. Malsed argument about that at Laughlin several years ago cemented that rule into place. Just be glad they're not trying to spray-paint AutoX-style boxes on dirt (:roll:) for the cones like some other regions.

[Tommy Gun Rally]

OMG I remember that. Bill was trying to run over every cone on course, ostensibly because the whole thing was so narrow, and Malsed was running after him screaming to stop.

[WAM]

At last years Solo Nationals at Lincoln it rained so hard a shallow lake/puddle formed. Waves from passing cars knocked down cones twenty feet away. Unbelievably officials decided those counted, but there was a near revolt. Dunno how it resolved and thankfully it didn't rain for my runs.

[409industries]

So who all is camping? I will be there Saturday mid day to maybe get in a couple practice runs, and to help with the competition course setup.

Car is already packed up and ready to go.

[SoCalBoomer]

OMG I remember that. Bill was trying to run over every cone on course, ostensibly because the whole thing was so narrow, and Malsed was running after him screaming to stop.

we stopped counting at FORTY. . . Laughlin is actually quite pretty when everything is a shade of red. . . and heck, I could get the dually-water truck around the course. . . :D

Anyway - it's been that way for several years for exactly the reason MarkA said. It's also another reason why we've started minimizing the number of outside cones - can't roost INWARD. . . :D


I will be doing Tech both days - but if you're there Saturday, your Sunday tech will be really cursory - empty the car, you didn't leave your helmet at home, blah blah blah.

If you're running Rally - I will have a place to come to me to get teched. It will be your responsibility to get teched before your class runs! :lol2:

[Pretendingtowork]

So who all is camping? I will be there Saturday mid day to maybe get in a couple practice runs, and to help with the competition course setup.

Car is already packed up and ready to go.

I will be camping out like last time. I bought a bigger cooler since then, if you guys are nice to me I will share!!! :cheers:

Can't wait to get in the dirt again. I will be packing tonight. Beer and whiskey is what I am bringing. I hope I still have space for the jack.

[punkrockerjohn]

It's the Bill Holmes/"too big of a truck for RallyX" rule. You're otherwise asking course workers to make a judgment call on whether it was spray or rear bumper and an epic Bill vs. Malsed argument about that at Laughlin several years ago cemented that rule into place. Just be glad they're not trying to spray-paint AutoX-style boxes on dirt (:roll:) for the cones like some other regions.


If the car is 3, or 4,or even 10 feet away and shoots a cone down with a rock or a bunch of dirt then its pretty obvious the car didn't hit the cone. I understand if its close, but I still think it's bogus. I dont really care what Bill did with his truck...

[T-Heineken]

*sigh*

Have tons of fun guys. I'll hopefully be putting my engine back in my car mid-next week.

Dave - Just don't tell anyone and include the *OPTIONAL* jump anyways :)

[rollo]

If the car is 3, or 4,or even 10 feet away and shoots a cone down with a rock or a bunch of dirt then its pretty obvious the car didn't hit the cone. I understand if its close, but I still think it's bogus. I dont really care what Bill did with his truck...

It doesn't matter. In practice with normal cars it happens very very rarely.

[SoCalBoomer]

It wasn't really Bill that forced the rule. I got tired of people claiming that they didn't hit the cone, but after the cloud of dust had cleared the cone was down. . .

In practice, especially later in the day, you'll go around a turn and the workers won't be able to see JACK until the dust has cleared. . . so no way to see if it was you or if it was a roost. . .

so we made it very objective: if it's up when you go by, but down when you leave, it's down.

Honestly, as Phil said, it doesn't come into play very often.

A: minimal outside cones so not much to actually hit with your roosts, even with Rally tires on.

B: vehicles don't typically put up that kind of roost anyway - typically roosts are dust, not rocks, so they're not going to knock over cones.

C: trucks should be running flaps for safety reasons (you shoulda seen some of the rocks that trucks would throw. . . so Bill mounted RV flaps which lessened that a LOT).


Also, this was not a rule that was implemented in a vacuum. I held LONG discussion about it on the old RallyXPortal.com with a ton of people providing input. It was the VAST majority who said it was fine by them before I actually implemented it. . . and it's worked so far so it's stayed in.

[Ocard]

I do have some wheels you could buy they are all the wrong bolt pattern! ;-)

I will have some tires to sell tho :thumbsup:
nice!! Ill make sure to bring some cash to try and persuade you and some carne asada :lick: lol

[bue car]

stay off my used tires lol

[409industries]

I will be camping out like last time. I bought a bigger cooler since then, if you guys are nice to me I will share!!!

Hey, it will be good to see you again. I remember your car and decals from the last glen helen.

I can't fit a cooler in the car with my camping gear, and the skid plate i'm bringing... I'll pay for some ice if i can mooch some cooler space from someone... anyone? :)

[Pretendingtowork]

Hey, it will be good to see you again. I remember your car and decals from the last glen helen.

I can't fit a cooler in the car with my camping gear, and the skid plate i'm bringing... I'll pay for some ice if i can mooch some cooler space from someone... anyone? :)

Don't worry about paying for ice. I will have plenty of cooler space. See you guys tomorrow.

[punkrockerjohn]

A: minimal outside cones so not much to actually hit with your roosts

Thats key.

I'm not trying to pin anything on you personally, I just dont like the rule. I haven't been in this "scene" in the last five years anyway, so I'm expecting things to be different. If I was around when this was being discussed though, I would've had a fit about it. I just think if it is obvious that the car was nowhere close to the cone, then it shouldn't count.

I can specifically remember this coming up back in the day. I believe it was at glen helen even. Thanks for the explanation though...

edit: It does kinda suck for the RWD guys with no flaps, although most of the RWD cars I've seen at rallycrosses aren't exactly breaking straps at the dyno...

[409industries]

I haven't been in this "scene" in the last five years anyway, so I'm expecting things to be different.

Rallycross hasn't changed much man... you'll be spankin' people left and right.

Drive smooth, don't hit cones, take home the win! :lol:

Roost? Whats that? I have a N/A Impreza. LOL

[DRTY FOZ]

Is the pit area Dirt or tarmac? Im trying to decide what I'm gonna put where when were on the track.

[punkrockerjohn]

Is the pit area Dirt or tarmac? Im trying to decide what I'm gonna put where when were on the track.


Dirt...

[DRTY FOZ]

Thanx John

[punkrockerjohn]

Thanx John


Word... If you're gonna have stuff laying out that you don't want sitting in dirt, a tarp will do the trick. Make sure you have something to hold it down with though. the winds can pick up in that area sometimes...

[rollo]

Those heavy duty yard waste bags are handy as well, put your **** in one and weigh it down with a wheel.

[DRTY FOZ]

Thanks for the tips guys. Were excited to see how our forester does in FRX. This will be the first event like this we've attended. CANT WAIT!

[geekmonster]

ok, just got back home from helping set up. the course is gonna be good fun, no doubt about it. shaping up to be a real fun weekend, see you guys out there after i get off work.

[punkrockerjohn]

on my way now...

[bue car]

gahh im on my way to work too chris.. ill be out tomorrow.

[409industries]

heading out to pickup the car in irvine, then im off.

[socalximpreza]

showed up early in the morning for tech inspections, came home, about to head back.. all the people from subifest don't know what they are missing :D

[Thresham]

That was fun getting out there on the dirt again. I quite like the idea of these practice run days! Keeps me from competing and breaking stuff :-p .

It was nice seeing you guys again and meeting a lot of new people. I might just come out again tomorrow and watch you all compete.

I agree, subifest has nothing on RallyX!

I'll post my onboard vids a little later

[geekmonster]

gahh im on my way to work too chris.. ill be out tomorrow.

yeah, working today sucks. just got off work, eating lunch, then jumping in the car to head up. hopefully i'll be able to get one or two fun runs in.

[DRTY FOZ]

Rally cross is awesome! All the people we met are COOL! YA WERE HOOKED! See you tomorrow :)

[punkrockerjohn]

Practice day was a blast ! Thanks Bill and Mike and everyone else that helped.

Also, a HUGE thank you to Gushi for helping me out with the knock sensor.

[Burtoe]

Today was awsome, I like the track layout this time around alot better, and it seemed way longer than last time! Thanks to everyone that made it happen.

[Thresham]

Here are the vids I got from the in car camera mount today, if anybody is interested. Unfortunately my camera can't pick up the bright outside light too well... time for a GoProHD :thumbsup:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRnD4-BxUes

[Cambo]

i agree with Burtoe, this track was alot funner than GH 1 practice :thumbsup: i only got to ride along at GH 1 but driving the civic on this practice day was a blast (well worth the flat i got). i wish i could be there for the race

i cant wait to have TheDub back :twisted:

[socalximpreza]

i agree with Burtoe, this track was alot funner than GH 1 practice :thumbsup: i only got to ride along at GH 1 but driving the civic on this practice day was a blast (well worth the flat i got). i wish i could be there for the race

i cant wait to have TheDub back :twisted:


HAHAHHAHA.. omg that was you in the civic?

fwd:bow:

practice day was awesome!!! i'm looking forward to more events in the future since i'm trying to perfect my left foot braking :lol:

[isamu]

I just got back home. It was fun event!! Thank you everyone who organize this event.
Unfortunately, I broke Oil Cooler on my 5th run, and almost all oil was gone from the oil cooler….
However, Kyle Jackson (Jackson Rally) did fix it quickly. It was awesome. It’s like a magic. Thank you Kyle! I really, really appreciate that.

Isamu

[bue car]

way fun with the new course

Thanks for all the effort dave

[SoCalBoomer]

Here is the link to the results:

http://www.formularallyx.com/glenhelen2/GH2-2010-FINAL.pdf

As always, if you see an error, let me know and I will check against the log. . .

[lorenkb]

A big thanks to everyone that made this event possible. It was great to get back into the dirt again. :thumbsup:

Mike: Damn, nice quick results! Jacob Goad was definetly not in R4. I can't say for sure, but I think he was in SM4.

[DRTY FOZ]

Really great event. Practice day was a great way for us to see what our forester could do. Thanks again Dave!

[rollo]

Super fun event even though I was relegated to spectator.. but the co-driver's seat in the JR machine is not a bad place to observe from :D

Picked up some Guinness on the way back (many funny looks from people in the store since we all ended up looking like sandblasted dirtmonsters from the wind and dust) and came back to a really nice home-cooked meal.. :headbang:

Kyle's fix on the infamous yellow Evo was awesome. Glad to hear you made it home safe Isamu.

I have TONS of footage and pics from today, including on-car GoPro HD with some of the fastest and most spectacular guys.. I'm looking forward to going through it all.

Great to see Mike and Jayson out there again, it was like old times, and great to see so many new and enthusiastic folks driving and working too.

THANK YOU must go to Dave for this weekend and for the vast amount of work he has put in over the past few years to keep GH alive and amp it up even more. Dave you rock.


[edit: also huge thanks to the guys who came out and set up, worked the course, gridded and so on]

[Burtoe]

Picked up some Guinness


thats what im talkin about

[geekmonster]

great great great event. i have to admit, thing went extremely well after the initial impression with the changes done to the lot. since none of us had been notified that the grand stands and new course was put in recently, dave had to completely pull a course out from scratch on friday, and he did a great job. it will be sad to lose you as an organizer dave, but i just want to say its been a pleasure working with you.

that being said, i want to offer my help to any of the people that pick up where dave has left off. also if anyone else would like to get involved with helping out at these events, feel free to chime in on the future event threads.

now i looked at the results and it said that i had taken 1st for SS2, but i'm guessing the preliminary results may have been off because when the results were called out at the course, eric martin had 1st. all i know is that eric and my battle was really really close and that had to be the best competition i've had since i've been going out to rallyx events. i can't stress enough that i had a blast.


oh, and i think that people had said it before, but a big thanks to the course workers that helped out through the event, but a really really big thanks to the course workers that were out working for the rally class. that was a huge group of guys (19 to be exact) and no doubt it the course workers were out there for quite a while. if anyone on here was out there or talks to anyone that was out working for the rally class, please thank them for us. course working can be hot, dusty, and long, but the events wouldn't be able to function even remotely efficient if we didn't have enough people helping out.

[RallyPanda562]

I was surprised to hear that some people didn't like rallies when they came to these. Wish i came down friday afternoon, what the heck was i doing back at home? Definitely had tons of fun and will be back. Hopefully in a race :thumbsup:

[Rally OBXT]

Thanks to everyone who helped out and made this event happen! Dean, Chris, Mike, Jayson & Aaron get a special shout out for being part of my staff and kicking ass.

It was fun while it lasted guys! I won't be organizing in the future, but I will still be racing and coming out party.

See you guys at the next one. :headbang:

[Dino]

Holy damn that was fun. It has been too long, I almost forgot how much fun this is.

Huge massive amazing awesome thanks to Dave again for putting this on! You are the man! There would be a lot of bummed and bored rally-x'ers if it wasn't for your hard work, thanks again man.
Another amazing massive awesome huge thanks to all you who worked rally class! I know it was a big class and we can be pretty annoying with all the crap we like to kick up. We are all probably sliding around and kicking up dirt to compensate for something else =)

Whoa, nice racing Brent! Didn't realize how close we were!


Ohh thanks for the super quick results post Mike!

[lorenkb]

Run 5: One of my slower lap times, but I got a kick out of the beginning :lol2:
http://vimeo.com/15729514

[Dino]

Run 5: One of my slower lap times, but I got a kick out of the beginning :lol2:
http://vimeo.com/15729514

"Rubin' is racin'!"
:lol2::lol2::lol2:

[rollo]

Run 5: One of my slower lap times, but I got a kick out of the beginning :lol2:
http://vimeo.com/15729514

Sweet, the helmet cam worked great!

[Cambo]

HAHAHHAHA.. omg that was you in the civic?

fwd:bow:
lol yes, that was me... the Civic is my punishment for rolling my WRX ;)

did anyone snap any pictures of my 2 practice runs? id like to see the civic in action :lol2:

they must have shortend the length of the corse for sunday (race day) cuz Chris in the slowaca had 2 faster laps on race day then my best lap (1:46.XX) on Saturday in the Civic :bs: :rofl:

[Pretendingtowork]

Here is the link to the results:

http://www.formularallyx.com/glenhelen2/GH2-2010-FINAL.pdf

As always, if you see an error, let me know and I will check against the log. . .


Thanks for getting the results up quick. That being said, I know I am not fast, but I don't think my first run was in the 14 minute range. Is there anyway you can check on that? Thomas Bloess in SS4

[WAM]

now i looked at the results and it said that i had taken 1st for SS2, but i'm guessing the preliminary results may have been off because when the results were called out at the course, eric martin had 1st.

Yeah, his final run showed up in the results as 1:44 instead of 1:40. Fortunately for him I had my data logger on his car. It was a 100 sec run.

[Burtoe]

Run 5: One of my slower lap times, but I got a kick out of the beginning :lol2:
http://vimeo.com/15729514

is that the gopro hd?

[SoCalBoomer]

There have been a couple of inquiries - I will check against the written logs when I get home this evening! :D

Thanks also must go to Jayson and Cyndi (the pretty lady) who did the timing ALL DAY. . . :D

[Pretendingtowork]

I gotta say thanks to all of you guys for putting on such a great event. Sorry to hear you won't be around Dave. I know I am a rallyx newb, but if I can help you guys in any way for future events, please let me know.

[punkrockerjohn]

Thanks Dave, Mike, and everyone else who helped make this event happen. Tons of fun. Great to get back into it. Thanks again...


Now where are all the pictures ?

[Newk_Rally]

HUGE thanks to dave for another awesome event i had a great time as always. also big thanks to jon stewart for letting me barrow his car on sunday. and kirk for letting me drive the swapped L on sat.

Dave as you know we're all sad to see you go. you host great events and i've learned alot from you. have a good time up in the SB area.

[Newk_Rally]

and johns right us pic whores need a daily dose

[geekmonster]

Run 5: One of my slower lap times, but I got a kick out of the beginning :lol2:
http://vimeo.com/15729514

the helmet cam turned out kinda cool.

[geekmonster]

and johns right us pic whores need a daily dose

this was the only one that i got.:muhaha:

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r102/ragingcaseofhemroids/DSC_6697.jpg

oh, and i got some series shots of the course, just need to see if i can sweet talk mike into doing another panoramic using the shots i got. was really cool the last time at gh, so i imagine this one will be super bad ass since its from up in the grand stands. i'll upload the rest tonight after i get home from work, just takes time and i had no energy left after i finally got home and searched for the burning oil smell coming from the slowica.

[409industries]

Loren, that helmet cam was super cool! I might have to try something like that in the future. I did get some good forward facing GoPro footage from inside the car that i will try to get online tonight. Its too bad the second one was on the fritz. lame.

Overall, a awesome event. Probably the smoothest running one we've ever had at Glen Helen. Its a damn shame that we finally get everything right and Dave is done. It just goes to show that we have some very talented people organizing events out here in the southwest. So big ups for Dave keeping it going for so long. Thanks to Mike, Jay, Dean, and all the workers that were so willing to do what it took get things done.

That gully was insane. I don't think i ever got through it the way i really wanted to, but it made for some entertaining video (rocks flying forward and up onto the hood!) With such a large R4 class, we saw the course degrade quick... but it was a great challenge to try and get around the rough stuff and still put in good times. I think my favorite run of the the day was the muddy one after the break, the water truck ran the course 2x. It was slow on the clock, but a huge blast to drive!

Brian (my friend with the Forrester) and his lovely wife Julie were out there shooting tons of photos, which I will get online as soon as I obtain them. My friend Dan was out there too taking shots from up on the grand stand too so once everything is compiled i'll get a big flickr upload done so people can snag high-resolution downloads for themselves. Stay tuned for this!

Thank you everyone that came out, I'm glad I was able to give some new people rides in the car, i hope you'll come out to where ever the next one is going to be.

ALSO, there were several people that expressed interest in buying shirts, but never followed up with me at the event. I have all sizes in stock, please pick one up in the DI store!

[SoCalBoomer]

Couple of panos of Sunday's course. Wish I'd done it Saturday. . . DOH!

http://malsed.net/images/Pano1.jpg
http://malsed.net/images/pano2.jpg